Cameron On Cannabis Part 8

    Mr Cameron, It’s You Who Needs Education About Cannabis (Part 1)

    Don’t Let Cameron Get Away With His Untruths About Cannabis. Write A Letter! (Part 2)

    Cameron On Cannabis Part 3

    Cameron On Cannabis Part 4

    Cameron On Cannabis Part 5

    Cameron On Cannabis Part 6

    Cameron On Cannabis Part 7

    I wrote to Mr Cameron again today.

    Dear Mr Cameron,

    It is now more than six months since you spoke untruths about cannabis during your YouTube Al Jazeera interview.  You have taken no steps at all to correct these.  This, from the leader of Britain, is as much evidence of a moral decline as any thieving rioter, greedy banker or cheating MP.  Are you in the business of misinformation and propaganda or of truth?

    On behalf of the millions of people who use cannabis in Britain, I have written to you on 26th February, 9th and 16th March, 5th and 26th April and 4th July 2011. In response, all I have received are blandishments and a note that my correspondence is “under consideration”.

    This year I have made around 30 Press Complaints Commission complaints and two to the Office of Judicial Complaints, all concerning falsehood and untruths about cannabis.  I can call newspaper editors to account, even judges but for you, our prime minister, it seems there is no accountability at all.

    That the words you spoke were false, there is no doubt. I have already provided you with scientific evidence that is absolute proof of this. Cannabis is not “incredibly damaging”, nor “very, very toxic”.  There is only a tiny risk of mental health problems, much less than alcohol, tobacco or even energy drinks. It is nonsense to say that scientific and medical authorities are “free to make independent determinations” about medicinal use.  The Home Office is engaged in a cruel and brutal campaign to deny medicine to those who need it unless it comes from its partner and unlawful monopoly producer GW Pharmaceuticals.  The Department of Health refuses even to discuss the matter and GPs are warned not to prescribe medicinal cannabis in blatant suppression of their prescribing rights.

    You can continue in a Colonel Gaddafi style denial of the truth but neither I, nor the members of CLEAR, nor the millions of responsible and respectable citizens who use cannabis will let you get away with it.

    Will you please now deal with this issue in the honourable and honest way that we are entitled to expect?

    Yours sincerely,

    Peter Reynolds

    • Fcukpotter

      I wouldn’t be suprised if his response is to ban discussions regarding illegal activities. If only we had the Spanish style cannabis clubs, one of the best set ups yet excluding the dam etc.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001636815428 Simon Quoreenton

      Why would the leader of our country tell the truth now? Over the last couple of decades it has become clear that the truth is the very last thing to come from there mouths. We need a system that allows us, the electors, to hold these two faced liars to account!

    • http://www.facebook.com/cannajan Janice Wells

      Spain is way ahead of the UK, I often think about emigration

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ian-Laxton/657882889 Ian Laxton

      Until Cameron realises that the cannabis community isn’t a minority anymore, he will still spout his rubbish to anyone that will listen, cos he thinks he’s saving votes with his scaremongering misinformation. I so want CLEAR to prove this idiot and his  wrong with it’s fact and truth.

    • Cshaws

      Good morning Ian – unfortunately, and statistically, I think we are a minority. The Royal College of Psychiatrists reckon 2 million users in UK – personally I think this is a low estimate.  Only when Cameron and crew acknowledge the real science, and trust the experts, rather than spreading FUD (fear,uncertainty & doubt) will the true number come forward to be counted. In the present climate of fear, legal intimidation and Daily Wail scaremongering the majority of cannabis beneficiaries are, understandably, too frightened to come forward and nail their colours to the mast. However, if those 2 million+ were to turn up outside parliament with a banner saying something like “I am innocent of any crime – please come and explain why my elected representatives think I am” then that might kickstart some sensible debate. Especially when the sadly misinformed Joe Public sees the cross section of society that turns up.  Or am I living in some sort of drug induced fantasy land??

      Peter – if you are reading this – do you have any idea when the members forum will be up and running?? 

    • Alicowell

      Cameron is a typical politician that when you see his mouth move a pack of lies spew out!

    • Dog303

      Time to wake the hell up !! if he’s the fool he sounds by saying all this remember the last gov sacked two of the top drug men for telling all of us that its not half as bad as drink or fags ?!?! Sacked for telling us the facts huuuumm this is not what i voted for at all …..lies will down us all.

    • http://twitter.com/SkylonRow Ben Orrin

      A Forum would be really useful.

    • Stephen Steinberg

      Nice one Peter! That smarmy toe rag needs telling!

    • Andy Tours

      David Cameron you are a disgrace to your country. For not even discussing this issue, it show’s that you and your govt. are cowards. What makes you into such imbeciles?
      You have no soul or compassion for the sick people of the UK. You must be brought to task over this issue. I have a friend who 12 years ago was told that she would die from bowel cancer. A lot of cannabis and no surgery-she is still alive today. If she had taken her px. medication, she would not be here to tell the tale. How dare our govt. make sick people into criminals over a plant that can benefit them? It is you, our govt. who are the real criminals.

    • AceElectrician

      Politicians being Two faced liars!  Says the man convicted of growing, supplying and selling drugs from his elderly mothers home!

      found in the raid, a set of small scales and books containing names, amounts!
      http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/Suspended-sentence-growing-cannabis/story-13015717-detail/story.htmlYou don’t need drugs to improve your life, you simply need to get a job, work hard and accept that you are a never going to amount to anything.

    • http://www.peter-reynolds.co.uk Peter Reynolds

      Your link leads nowhere.  Personally I find your tone objectionable too and I have a suspicion that you lead nowhere.  If you want to indulge in petty little vendettas, please do it elsewhere.

    • Anonymous

      You’re on the wrong site.Stick with The Daily Mail, you nimby middle England sheep and keep your worthless archaic opinions where they belong-in the 1950′s!

    • Andy Tours.

      ‘don’t need drugs’- I hope that you don’t drink then! Alcohol is by far the hardest drug on this planet. It’s quite often the drinkers who are against Cannabis, the hypocrites. One day you may need  Cannabis as a medicine. ’Never amount to anything’-wrong AceElectrician. If only you knew! And don’t be so judgemental about something you clearly know nothing about. Re-educate yourself about the truth about Cannabis and stop being such an old misery. The truth about this plant is everywhere on the net but you of course listen to the bulllshit propaganda that our govt. spout. It’s your choice, but why are you such a prisoner in your own mind?

    • Aceelectrician

      It seems
      the link didn’t work correctly, here you go.

      http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/Suspended-sentence-growing-cannabis/story-13015717-detail/story.html

      Try it now
      and see the kind of people supporting your campaign.

      I really
      don’t care who smokes themselves to death with drugs as long as they don’t
      impact on the rest of society. But you really cannot condone those who grow it
      in large quantities, wrap it, and sell it on, and while in this instance he
      wasn’t charged for selling, he has before! This man was selling! Grow it for your own use if you must, but over thirty
      large plants are not for your own use!

      You people
      are narrow minded like the religious zealots; anyone who disagrees with your
      warped mindset is immediately attacked.

      And for
      those who suggested I educated myself, I’m a professional working in the
      education sector and have seen firsthand how your ‘safe’ drug can turn great A
      star students into total waster giving society another victim whose life we
      have to pick up and put back together again. I have seen people who have moved
      onto harder drugs for a greater high and then the mess their lives and their victim’s
      lives become. So don’t try and take the moral high ground! You visit some drug
      rehab units and see those who started on your drug of choice.

      And I
      agree Alcohol is just as bad, as is tobacco, and I see no reason not to make them
      illegal either but I have to accept that Society has
      decided against this, therefore you should accept society making your ‘little habit’ illegal.

      Finally,
      look at your posts; see how you rage against those you call liars, and those who don’t
      agree with you.

      Is that the response of a balanced mind?

      I don’t think so!

    • Andy Tours.

      You are completely misssing the point about medical cannabis. By using Cannabis, I go a long way to protecting my brain from having a tumour. THC in cannabis diminishes tumours. This is a scientific and medical fact. The cure for cancer appear’s to be in the Cannabis plant-research this and you will be amazed at what the govt. do not want you to know. As for being narrow minded, lol……you are the one stuck in the middle ages. Do not write issues about people you do not know and whom probably would never ever want to associate themselves with you. Working in the education sector? Reducate yourself about Cannabis, quoting some incidents which are not of the norm, (yes I do have something to do with the medical sector.) We are adults and that is something that you should learn to become. And show a bit more compassion to the sick of the UK. Cannabis is the best medicine for over 2,000 ailments.,
      inlc. Cancer, Aids, MS, Parkinson, Anorexia, pain and the list goes on. Go on reading the daily mail, it’s a very enlightening paper for open minded people like yourself.

    • Anonymous

      Don’t act all offended, it was you who instigated this attack, so if you can’t stand the heat dude…
      As for you being in the education sector…!
      I think you are lying.My better half and 4 of the six people in her family are in the education sector and your comment reeks of old school ignorance about cannabis.As for those in rehab,they are in there as it was either rehab or prison.
      If you were to study the history of cannabis you would realise that this plant has been around since before man crawled upon the earth and was made illegal due to corporate greed and racism.To date it has not killed one single person and is being pushed as medicine by a major pharmaceutical company for around £200 a month!Does that not strike you as strange?
      Having worked in a pharmacy for a few years I can assure you that the general consensus among pharmacist’s ‘off the record’ regarding cannabis is thankfully a lot more modern than yours.
      I have dispensed drugs which were so toxic that we had to wear gloves or use a disposable plastic spoon to dispense them!
      Even over the counter medications are more harmful than a bit of weed.
      As for us not having a balanced mind, try to remember it was you who started the offensive, if you had just come here to give a respectful opinion, you would not have felt so hard done by and would not have been attacked.
      Maybe you should try again to put your point across in a more ‘balanced’ way and see what the outcome might be…

    • Andy Tours.

      By the way, working at the Cannabis College in Amsterdam,
      I do know that if you hate Cannabis, then you love cancer.
      Enjoy your sad, enclosded life.

    • http://www.peter-reynolds.co.uk Peter Reynolds

      No, you very much got what you deserve from the aggressive and unpleasant attitude you took from the start.

      As for “…see the kind of people supporting your campaign. “, that’s just more of the same.  You obviously have a personal axe to grind because there is nothing in that article that describes anything more than a man looking after his mother and using cannabis to treat arthritis (for which there is a great deal of conclusive scientific evidence).

      What makes you so angry and bitter?

      You’re the one who came here on the attack.  Your posts are barely coherent and you’re very poorly informed.

      What is really behind your rage?

    • cunningasafox

      Peter…. send a letter under an assumed name as if you are one of his constituents.

    • Cunningasafox

      i.e. via write to them. Just put your address down as high street, Witney or something. Then you get straight through to his constituency office as opposed to the brick wall at number 10…. http://www.writetothem.com/

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HIS5GWQRTPHY2GYNBGS6O4DBOE Frederick

      “Politicians being Two faced liars!  Says the man convicted of growing,
      supplying and selling drugs from his elderly mothers home!”

      AceElectrician, I’m struggling to see what your point is?  Are you saying that a man convicted of growing/supplying/selling drugs would be hypocritical for calling many of our politicians “two-faced liars?”  There is no correlation unless in committing said “crimes” he was doing so in a two-faced, lying way.

      Furthermore, it is decriminalisation that is being fought for.  I would’ve thought that an educated teacher such as yourself would be able to work that out.  It is the politicians who say that this gentleman is a criminal – don’t you see the irony?

    • Ftumsh

      I find it quite strange that you encourage people to correct Mr Camerons falsehoods
      about cannabis when you and your cohorts have acceded to every major prohibitionist construct in your legalising and taxation cannabis plan?.

      the Skunk/high THC/mental illness stuff in particular which you yourself debunk with astonishing regularity is now accepted as fact in your document, is it the case you will abandon decades of research and decades of activists debunking these myths
      just to appear fair and reasonable?, how fair and reasonable is it that you have now basically admitted that the prohibitionist constructs have some basis in reality so much so that you propose a tax on higher THC varieties due to the alleged danger to mental health?, Ben Goldacre anyone?, previous to your plan you were quite vehement
      in the dismissal and debunking of these prohibitionist constructs and now you appear to agree with them, abandon your principles and your previous beliefs for the chance to
      score some state weed, we can all see your integrity and honesty flapping in the wind
      and the entire plan shows you to be the two faced hypocrite many suspected you were,
      you have just thrown away any credibility you may have had and destroyed decades of activism,  the Skunk/high THC/mental illness myth is a lie based on a lie based on a lie,
      each lie has been proven false repeatedly but now the government can turn round and
      point to your document and say you have backed up their propaganda with your ill thought out back to front plan, you should among other things have promoted the savings to be made not prosecuting cannabis users such as in Spain or Portugal
      not appealing to the greed of the government for as we can see they are doing a great job of managing the economy and this is the crowd of self serving thieves liars war criminals and fraudsters that you want in charge of cannabis?,

      with “activists” like you Peter who needs prohibition, spectacular own goal on the propaganda front, time for an early bath Peter.

    • Cshaws

      I think you are being a bit harsh on Peter.  There is some evidence to suggest that there may be link between cannabis and some mental issues with younger people. However, if this is the case, firstly it needs further research and secondly the evidence suggests that it is only a tiny fraction of users who may be affected. In a legal and controlled environment education would play an important role in pointing out the ‘danger’ signs to young people and proper research would quickly separate facts from fiction and promote correct preventative measures if necessary.   Because the massive amount of Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD) spread by judges, politicians and certain vociferous media types it’s going to be an uphill struggle to counter that FUD with facts and truth.  The FUD has become deeply ingrained in the British psyche and so the two most common arguments of ‘my wife’s, cousin’s, girlfriend’s dad knows someone who is a cabbage because of cannabis’ and ‘we must protect the children because one spliff and you’ve lost them forever’, type of thing, need some sort of intellectual concession so that those who believe this sort of overblown rhetoric can feel more at ease with the proposals.  Only time and patience will demonstrate the truth.

    • http://www.peter-reynolds.co.uk Peter Reynolds

      You idiot.  Your comment is incoherent, inaccurate and nothing but gibberish.  You put words in my mouth.  You seem to believe you can divine my thinking and you focus it all on personal abuse of me!

      You are exactly the sort of fool who has held back the  cannabis campaign for so many years.  You are a prohibitionist’s dream.  Your arrogance is breathtaking and utterly ridiculous because you are totally and absolutely wrong.

      You are deluded and displaying your embarrassing foolishness under yet another stupid alias.

      I actually find it difficult to believe that anyone can be so stupid.  You are clearly unwell.

    • Ftumsh

      Where did my comment go?, an honest person would defend themselves, what’s up Pete, censoring valid criticism is a sure sign that you have something to hide and completely dishonest, no debate here just a load of yes men, how sad.

    • http://www.peter-reynolds.co.uk Peter Reynolds

      Your comment is right below.  I wouldn’t dream of removing it.  It speaks for itself.

    • Cshaws

      Yep. It’s definitely still there. 

    • Ftumsh

      I find it quite strange that you encourage people to correct Mr Camerons falsehoods

      about cannabis when you and your cohorts have acceded to every major
      prohibitionist construct in your legalising and taxation cannabis plan?.

      the Skunk/high THC/mental illness stuff in particular which you yourself
      debunk with astonishing regularity is now accepted as fact in your
      document, is it the case you will abandon decades of research and
      decades of activists debunking these myths

      just to appear fair and reasonable?, how fair and reasonable is it that
      you have now basically admitted that the prohibitionist constructs have
      some basis in reality so much so that you propose a tax on higher THC
      varieties due to the alleged danger to mental health?,

       Ben Goldacre
      anyone?, previous to your plan you were quite vehement

      in the dismissal and debunking of these prohibitionist constructs and
      now you appear to agree with them, abandon your principles and your
      previous beliefs for the chance to

      score some state weed, we can all see your integrity and honesty flapping in the wind

      and the entire plan shows you to be the two faced hypocrite many suspected you were,

      you have just thrown away any credibility you may have had and destroyed
      decades of activism, 

      the Skunk/high THC/mental illness myth is a lie
      based on a lie based on a lie,

      each lie has been proven false repeatedly but now the government can turn round and

      point to your document and say you have backed up their propaganda with
      your ill thought out back to front plan, you should among other things
      have promoted the savings to be made not prosecuting cannabis users such
      as in Spain or Portugal

      not appealing to the greed of the government for as we can see they are
      doing a great job of managing the economy and this is the crowd of self
      serving thieves liars war criminals and fraudsters that you want in
      charge of cannabis?,

      with “activists” like you Peter who needs prohibition, spectacular own
      goal on the propaganda front, time for an early bath Peter.

      There is nothing in the above that is not true, the remotest scrutiny of your blog contents vs the cannabis legalisation/taxation plan shows you to be an abject hypocrite
      and your censorship of any criticism that reveals it merely proves it, you are a coward
      too an honest man would defend such accusations but since they are completely
      correct and undeniable you censor them, poor show Peter, no doubt you will claim yet again to be the subject of threats and abuse and use this to censor at will,
      sad enough that you lie others but even sadder that you are lying to yourself
      if you cannot accept the facts that are printed all over your blog,

      did you or did you not put your time and name to a document that agrees with
      every prohibitionist construct based on the myth of “skunk” and propose to tax
      cannabis with high THC differently despite your own previous complete disagreement
      to the assertions of propagandists about skunk/THC/mental health that is plastered
      in every newspaper comment section from the sun to the guardian in recent months?

      now you agree to the opposite by including such nonsense in your plan?
      I think hypocrite is letting you off lightly Peter.

      censor away Pete, you and I know the truth of it. 

    • Ftumsh

      LOL

    • Ftumsh

      coward

    • Ftumsh

      liar

    • Ftumsh

      hypocrite

    • Ftumsh

      I find it quite strange that you encourage people to correct Mr Camerons falsehoods

      about cannabis when you and your cohorts have acceded to every major
      prohibitionist construct in your legalising and taxation cannabis plan?.

      the Skunk/high THC/mental illness stuff in particular which you yourself
      debunk with astonishing regularity is now accepted as fact in your
      document, is it the case you will abandon decades of research and
      decades of activists debunking these myths

      just to appear fair and reasonable?, how fair and reasonable is it that
      you have now basically admitted that the prohibitionist constructs have
      some basis in reality so much so that you propose a tax on higher THC
      varieties due to the alleged danger to mental health?,

       Ben Goldacre
      anyone?, previous to your plan you were quite vehement

      in the dismissal and debunking of these prohibitionist constructs and
      now you appear to agree with them, abandon your principles and your
      previous beliefs for the chance to

      score some state weed, we can all see your integrity and honesty flapping in the wind

      and the entire plan shows you to be the two faced hypocrite many suspected you were,

      you have just thrown away any credibility you may have had and destroyed
      decades of activism, 

      the Skunk/high THC/mental illness myth is a lie
      based on a lie based on a lie,

      each lie has been proven false repeatedly but now the government can turn round and

      point to your document and say you have backed up their propaganda with
      your ill thought out back to front plan, you should among other things
      have promoted the savings to be made not prosecuting cannabis users such
      as in Spain or Portugal

      not appealing to the greed of the government for as we can see they are
      doing a great job of managing the economy and this is the crowd of self
      serving thieves liars war criminals and fraudsters that you want in
      charge of cannabis?,

      with “activists” like you Peter who needs prohibition, spectacular own
      goal on the propaganda front, time for an early bath Peter.

      There is nothing in the above that is not true, the remotest scrutiny of
      your blog contents vs the cannabis legalisation/taxation plan shows you
      to be an abject hypocrite

      and your censorship of any criticism that reveals it merely proves it, you are a coward

      too an honest man would defend such accusations but since they are completely

      correct and undeniable you censor them, poor show Peter, no doubt you
      will claim yet again to be the subject of threats and abuse and use this
      to censor at will,

      sad enough that you lie others but even sadder that you are lying to yourself

      if you cannot accept the facts that are printed all over your blog,

      did you or did you not put your time and name to a document that agrees with

      every prohibitionist construct based on the myth of “skunk” and propose to tax

      cannabis with high THC differently despite your own previous complete disagreement

      to the assertions of propagandists about skunk/THC/mental health that is plastered

      in every newspaper comment section from the sun to the guardian in recent months?

      now you agree to the opposite by including such nonsense in your plan?

      I think hypocrite is letting you off lightly Peter.

      censor away Pete, you and I know the truth of it. 

    • Ftumsh

      lol